Thursday 8 January 2015

Why playing Red or Black in Roulette using Martingale is a bad idea

I've been leading unto this post for a bit now.

One of the most popular techniques in roulette is to use a progressive betting pattern such as

  • Martingale
  • Reverse Martingale
  • d'Alembert
  • etc
In all honesty, these are all a pile of rubbish.  If the math was corrupt, do you really think the casino's would let you play the game?   So the idea of this post is to let you see how much of a pile of rubbish they are.

So what is Martingale

The basic idea is that everytime you lose a bet, you double up your previous bet until you recoup your losses. Here is an example with a £10 stake and an initial bank of £10,000



Oh, wow, how amazing.  this must be free money.   Except, if you hit a long streak of losses the next stake is gonna exponentially grow.

And this is how much you'll have to bet to recover your losses during a losing streak



Oh wow after a losing streak of 11 losses, I'm betting £10,000 to recover my money.   Or 15 losses, I'm betting £163,000.   Get's pretty uncomfortable pretty quickly.

What else, can go wrong?  Well, even if you are stupid enough to try and bet £20,000 to recover your losses, the casino probably won't let you.  They have table limits (i.e. a maximum bet size).   And the chances are it's somewhere between £500 and £10,000.   

Yeah but i'll never get a streak that long

What's the chances of hitting a streak of 10 losses in a row and busting the table limits.   Errrr, pretty high.   See my post on streaky coin tosses (more favourable than red or black on roulette)



As you can see from the above graph (which is 20,000 simulated coin tosses).  You're gonna hit a streak of 10 or more, 18 times in 20,000 coin tosses.   In roulette this will work out basically around 1 in every 1,000 games.   That's pretty frequent.

Still don't believe me.

Try it yourself.   I've created a martingale simulator in excel.  Which uses my excel roulette simulator and an enhancement of my level staking plan simulators

The simulator allows you to simulate a large number of random roulette runs.   You can put in whatever table limits you want (it handles it) and you can generate new runs.



And as you can see in the above run, i bust out after about 1,000 games.   Sure i had a maximum bank of 3350 but i eventually bust out.

In-fact, you always bust out. 

Some people will say, ahhh but you play it until you win and then go home.   Sure but what happens the next night.....?    It's a small amount of games until you bust out.   You can't win.

Try it, play it in my simulator.   You can't win

Download my martingale simulator

You can download it from my dropbox for free.


Play with it until your heart is content.  (please note the simulator doesn't handle half-bet returns and doesn't need to the point is to show why martingale doesn't work)

You can even modify if you wan to try out your own wacky staking plans

So, next time you're tempted by playing martingale, just stop and think about it before you throw away your money

Hope this helps

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